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Title: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: phinsup on July 08, 2004, 08:36:52 AM
Well I was running coppermine with the bridge on 1.3 of course the bridge doesn't work for 2.0 anyone know if there is a new one in the works seeing as 2.0 is in RC stages?

Thanks
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: XBleed on July 12, 2004, 05:56:16 AM
Yes, it's needed pretty badly here too.  ;)

Here is a link with debug info :

http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=7835.0
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Joachim Müller on July 12, 2004, 09:03:48 AM
None of the dev team runs IPB, the existing bridge file has been contributed by IPB users, with modifications applied by the coppermine devs. As we don't know what changed from the previous version of IPB to IPB2.0 we can't provide any bridge file, so the IPB community is requested to come up with a new bridge file. There's little we (the coppermine devs) can do about this. If you don't feel up to coding a new bridge file for IPB 2.0, maybe you could bring this up on the IPB support boards.

GauGau
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: lancefiasco on July 13, 2004, 12:17:19 AM
bump
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Joachim Müller on July 13, 2004, 08:36:02 AM
what do you mean by "bump"? You haven't even posted on this thread. Was this supposed to be something like "I agree, I need it as well"? Like I already posted: if you need it, you code it, or yu find someone from the IPB community who does.

GauGau
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: lancefiasco on July 15, 2004, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: GauGau on July 13, 2004, 08:36:02 AM
what do you mean by "bump"? You haven't even posted on this thread. Was this supposed to be something like "I agree, I need it as well"? Like I already posted: if you need it, you code it, or yu find someone from the IPB community who does.

GauGau

It's quite poor that you advertise integration with IPB, yet you do not plan to upgrade it.
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Joachim Müller on July 15, 2004, 05:27:38 PM
What do you mean by "advertize"? Same word as in "Company X advertizes their commercial product Y"?
IPB is a commercial product, coppermine is a free, non-commercial open-source application. Do you expect coppermine developers, who do development in their spare time without getting paid, to actually buy an IPB license, so we're able to code a bridge file?

I think your attitude is quite poor: instead of nagging and bumping, you could try to come up with a solution; if you're not a coder, you could start by posting a request in the ipb support forums. Not being a coder is a poor excuse anyway: nobody was born as a coder, everybody had to learn it, mostly by picking up pieces here and there. If previous versions of IPB used to work and the most recent version doesn't work, you have to ask yourself: what changed in IPB code (login/authentication/user management) that stops the old bridge file from working? We (the coppermine dev team) can't tell, as we don't have a copy of IPB's code, but you seem to have one.

GauGau
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: XBleed on July 15, 2004, 10:03:11 PM
IPB is free to download and use for an unlimited amount of time.
When you pay for a license, you're only purchasing "support".

Just thought I'd bring that up?

From what I've gathered, CPG is having trouble pulling this code:
       $sql = "SELECT id as user_id, name as user_name, mgroup " . "FROM " . $UDB_DB_NAME_PREFIX . IB_TABLE_PREFIX . IB_USER_TABLE . " " . "WHERE id='$cookie_uid' AND password='$cookie_pass'";

I've looked at all the tables in there and I can't see why it's not pulling it up.  I'm no php guru, so I came here for help considering this is the support forum for this type of situation.  I understand where you would not want to buy a license just to get a bridge out, but like I said it doesn't require to be purchased.

Just out of curiosity, who coded the bridge files from before if it wasn't the CPG staff?
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Casper on July 15, 2004, 10:45:07 PM
You gave a link at the top, but neither there or here have you given the full error report.

QuoteWhile executing query "SELECT id as user_id, name as user_name, mgroup FROM `bleedzao_zao`.ibf_members WHERE id='1' AND password='******'" on Resource id #5

mySQL error:


It would help if you gave what the mysql error actually said. 

Much of the code on coppermine, including some of the bridge files, are down to user submissions.  As Gaugau said, we don't have the code, and if we were concerned with changes made to other applications, we would never get any time to work on coppermine.  And also as he said, the 'staff', as you call us, are all unpaid volunteers working for the betterment of coppermine.
It seems the 'staff' at IPB require payment for their help.

This is not just aimed at IPB, we often have requests to create bridges to other apps, and the answer is always the same, that a user of that app will have to do it, the coppermine team won't unless one of them happens to use that app.
Perhaps a user of both apps will look at the differences between the 2 IPB versions, why thebridge works with earlier versions, but not now. 
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: XBleed on July 16, 2004, 06:00:43 AM
It never says the mysql error.  That's all it says.

But, I do understand that you guys are going to focus more on CPG rather than integrating with the products.
Perhaps these request threads are aimed towards members like me who actually know what to do to create the bridge.
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Joachim Müller on July 16, 2004, 08:20:12 AM
exactly: you seem to know your way around in IPB, so it would be great if you created a new bridge file for IPB2. As Casper already pointed out: we're relying on user contributions for the bridge files. We (the coppermine dev team) are doing what we're best at: developing coppermine, the product we understand most.

GauGau
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Casper on July 16, 2004, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: XBleed on July 16, 2004, 06:00:43 AM
It never says the mysql error.  That's all it says.

Turn on debug mode, and you should get a more complete report.  Please post it here.
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: lancefiasco on July 16, 2004, 01:53:37 PM
Quote from: GauGau on July 15, 2004, 05:27:38 PM
What do you mean by "advertize"? Same word as in "Company X advertizes their commercial product Y"?
IPB is a commercial product, coppermine is a free, non-commercial open-source application. Do you expect coppermine developers, who do development in their spare time without getting paid, to actually buy an IPB license, so we're able to code a bridge file?

I think your attitude is quite poor: instead of nagging and bumping, you could try to come up with a solution; if you're not a coder, you could start by posting a request in the ipb support forums. Not being a coder is a poor excuse anyway: nobody was born as a coder, everybody had to learn it, mostly by picking up pieces here and there. If previous versions of IPB used to work and the most recent version doesn't work, you have to ask yourself: what changed in IPB code (login/authentication/user management) that stops the old bridge file from working? We (the coppermine dev team) can't tell, as we don't have a copy of IPB's code, but you seem to have one.

GauGau

There already is a request in the IPB forum.
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: XBleed on July 16, 2004, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: Casper on July 16, 2004, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: XBleed on July 16, 2004, 06:00:43 AM
It never says the mysql error.  That's all it says.

Turn on debug mode, and you should get a more complete report.  Please post it here.
Unfortunately that is the message I get in debug.  Before debugging, it just said, "Fatal Error:"
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Bluewater on July 16, 2004, 09:26:02 PM
Quote from: lancefiasco on July 16, 2004, 01:53:37 PM
There already is a request in the IPB forum.

appreciate if you can post the  link to that thread here...
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: lancefiasco on July 16, 2004, 10:36:10 PM
http://forums.invisionize.com/index.php?showtopic=48184
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Bluewater on July 21, 2004, 03:03:09 PM
is it possible for the group to look into the issue of the bridge and create the necessary codes... and make it available for download, but at a fee...

there must be many invision users who are stuck there and will be agreeable to pay a fee to make coppermine work again in the invision board 2.0

what do your think, the coppermine team?

Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Joachim Müller on July 21, 2004, 04:38:05 PM
we're open source people here, we don't want fees. Who should handle such things, we're no company. Solutions we come up with will be available for free. If somebody else comes up with a solution that is based upon IBF and coppermine code, you'll have to take the licenses of both softwares into account.
In other words: the fee idea is not so good imo.

GauGau
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Bluewater on July 23, 2004, 06:11:15 PM

hmm... I understand your point.

I really do know that you guys are giving free support and were spending your personal time to create this coppermine gallery... and I do appreciate your effort...

but it's really no thanks, now that I have upgraded to V2.0 (not possible to do a downgrade anymore) and that the gallery is not working.. and the whole thing just came to a halt without me able to see any possible solution to the whole issue

sigh....

Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: mmx on July 25, 2004, 12:13:08 AM
IPB 2.0 uses its own bridge file based on its Converge technology. Unfortunately, Matt has not published any documentation that I'm aware of yet.
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: Bluewater on July 25, 2004, 07:18:25 PM

it is becuase Matt tried to prevent all other gallery mod to be link to Invision board.. such that we have to switch to invision gallery?

sigh..

anyone to create new bridge so that it works in IPB2.0?

Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: JRKy on July 29, 2004, 10:59:56 PM
Check this:

http://mods.invisionize.com/db/index.php/f/3387

Haven't tried it yet but will tonight.
Title: Re: IPB 2.0 and Coppermine
Post by: lancefiasco on July 30, 2004, 12:33:06 AM
Tried it...works nicely :D