Coppermine and Flash Interface Navigation ? Look this link

[Rodinou]

You were very clear but indeed, if the thumbs are created on the fly, it's so impressive ...

But with this system, a lot of servers could at least, BREATHE again

[nol33t]

But with this system, a lot of servers could at least, BREATHE again

well... on the fly but server side 
but i think ( not sure though ) that creating thumbs for the flash viewer on the fly, but from the coppermine thumbs, would be still a lot faster

2. when clicking on album, show the FIRST pic in intermediate size

done, and it does look nicer ...

[Rodinou]

Ohhhhhhhh yes !!! and you have done something very cool ! the name of the album on each pic !!! Could you continue in this way and put UNDER this title the title of the pic when this pic has it ?!

Your stuff becomes interesting ... but now : how to do when we see a category ?!

[nol33t]

thanx, but not quite perfect yet:
-  the albums list is a list of the subdirectories of "albums/" ( edit and userpics excluded )
-  the image list is a list of the "normal_" prefixed pictures
--> so right now it's file system orientated, the goal is to make it db-orientated, using coppemine functions/config vars etc, then it will be a real "Flash coppermine viewer"

done!! 

Take a look at the now "beta" version : http://nol33t.free.fr/cpg/flash4cpg_db.php

- The flash viewer uses the config.inc.php file of coppermine to connect to the db with the correct cpgprefix table, and then recover other valuable info ( thumb prefix, normal prefix, and folder where the pictures are stored("fullpath" in cpgx_config) )

- All the albums and pictures info are then recovered from the coppermine tables: ( hover your mouse on the grey box at the bottom right corner of the picture )
  - picture namesize
  - resolution
  - upload date
  - viewed x times
  - title of the picture when there's one available ( go on the "Misc" album to check that, there's title on almost every pictures )

- Thumbs are now "thumbs of the coppermine thumbs" ( so they should load a lot faster)

next things i'm planning to add:
- list albums depending on the category chosen
- add the comments of the picture ( don't know exactly where/how to put them yet..)

on my todo list too: to release a  "working on any site"  version: you unzip everything and it works on your coppremine install, so long i have tried to code it in this way so that shouldn't be too hard

Constructive feedback welcome, so let me know what you think! 

-matt-

[Tranz]

ooh la la. Great job

View full image redirected to what seems like the index page of the album folder and I got redirected to the gallery home page.

[nol33t]

ooh la la. Great job

thank you

View full image redirected to what seems like the index page of the album folder and I got redirected to the gallery home page.

corrected! edit--fixed is a better word no? 

[Rodinou]

Ok it's very very cool !!!


But ... (mmmmmmmmmmmmmm héhé)

- probleme with VERTICAL photos ... you have only horizontal photos, and if you put vertical photos, they will be smaller. To resolve it, it would be to
- create a "flash form" which contains the lists of albums of a category (and not a list on the left, which takes a lot of place)
- put on the left (or right : possibility to configure like SimpleViewer ?) the thumb list.

Other things
Choose like Coppermine the number of the page we want to see : to see 400 photos, we have to see xxx preloads of thumbs ... or jump directly to the xxxx page would be great.

mmmmmmm the rest if perfect !!! Arghhhhhh yes !!! by putting "powered by coppermine" on bottom, possibility to have ONLY the flash without the Coppermine interface (very practice when we want to see your wonderful flash cpg in popup windows)

[nol33t]

- probleme with VERTICAL photos ... you have only horizontal photos, and if you put vertical photos, they will be smaller. To resolve it, it would be to
- create a "flash form" which contains the lists of albums of a category (and not a list on the left, which takes a lot of place)
- put on the left (or right : possibility to configure like SimpleViewer ?) the thumb list.

i won't change the display, it's too time consuming and the result is ok for me: the viewer browses through intermediate pictures ( btw it takes the fullsize one if the intermediate doesn't exist ), and so for vertical pictures the result is the same than in coppermine no? ( and you still can click on "view full image")
however to choose the category i think about using a pop-up indeed

Choose like Coppermine the number of the page we want to see : to see 400 photos, we have to see xxx preloads of thumbs ... or jump directly to the xxxx page would be great.

well if you click twice you'll arrive on page 2? I mean you don't have to wait for the thumbs to load to click to get the next page so..it's a good idea imo but it won't be my priority

by putting "powered by coppermine" on bottom, possibility to have ONLY the flash without the Coppermine interface (very practice when we want to see your wonderful flash cpg in popup windows)

little dilemna here..indeed if you point directly on the swf http://nol33t.free.fr/cpg/flash4cpg_db.swf it does look nice and i imagine how it would look with a pop-up with a 800x600 autoresized/no toolbar window..
but if i add a "powered by coppermine" thing i will then have to think of a nice way for people not to remove it...i think i can implement it just like it's done in coppermine but not really much more..
@Dev Team: would that be ok for you?

--edit: but that would mean that when integrated in a coppermine page ( flash4cpg.php ), the powered by would be here twice..I think it needs some extra reflection..

-matt-

[nol33t]

i imagine how it would look with a pop-up with a 800x600 autoresized/no toolbar window..

Concrete example:
- go on the main page of my site: http://nol33t.free.fr/cpg/
- click on "Navigation Flash" in the top menu



-matt-
--edit: the link wasn't workin' with IE... -fixed-

[Rodinou]

ok ok ... and ok

other requests ? Yes of course !!!


What's happened on the left menu if you have more albums ? A scrollbar appears ? Your example contains in fact ONE category (you have displayed your coppermine like it), and less than 20 albums ... (I live in Normandy ... ) ...


Another thing ... is it possible to display it on coppermine by adding a cell ... see my example :
What's happening on this page http://www.sortons.net/photos/index.php?cat=96

The top would be on the left menu, we click, ohhhh another category list appears, or if it's directly the albums, the albums appear (like your example)

Another example ...
http://www.sortons.net/photos/index.php?cat=2
Beneath the name of category, try to find a solution for user to
- he surfs by coppermine (page per page)
- he surfs with your flash4Cpg

At least
http://www.sortons.net/photos/index.php?cat=63
Put under the pic descr 2 links : one for CPG visit, one for Flash4CPG

and THE LEAST OF THE LEAST
http://www.sortons.net/photos/displayimage.php?album=1275&pos=0

On my example, on the right
"Surf with Flash4CPG"

I know, it's a lot of stuff, but I think Flash Solution will be, in next futures, a STANDARD.

Let me know, to finish, your stuff is simply amazing, and thanx to realize one of my dreams.

[nol33t]

  Comments added  ( the first pic of first album is a good example )

-matt-

@Rodinou: just saw your last post, right now the album list is the whole list of the albums in coppermine ( most of my albums have no category indeed, but 3 have ):

- yes if there's too many albums to display the list will be scrollable
- as i wrote earlier i plan to implement a "category" button which will display the albums of the category chosen only

thanx for your compliments, and...be a little more patient 

[Titooy]

Nice work !!!

http://nol33t.free.fr/cpg/flash4cpg_db.php

There's a kind of small bug when you click on Outside: the image is smaller than the frame (maybe should it be centered) and you see another pic under it. Looks like there's a problem unloading "old" pics.

[nol33t]

Thanx
I have noticed this "glitch" yes, however it's not happening all the time...but indeed it's a kind of small bug that i'm gonna hunt down

-matt-

[Rodinou]

Excuse me, I'm very exciting, simply !

ANother thing (ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't bite me !!!)

would it be possible to change the height/width of the thumb, cause 15 px seems to be very little ... (no ?)

Are the colors customizable ?

That's all

[skypix]

Fantastic work, nol33t, you are creating a marvelous improvement to Coppermine that answers the big problems I have with the gallery: namely, how to scroll filmstrip.  Wonderful work.

How can a newbie like me who knows very little about php incorporate this into my site (www.skypix7.com)  When do you think it will be done? 

Keep up the good work, your dialogue with Rodinou is fascinating, he is cracking the whip!   

[nol33t]

Thanks for the feedback, makes me want to release something stable asap

How can a newbie like me who knows very little about php incorporate this into my site (www.skypix7.com)  When do you think it will be done?

just wait a little bit..it's still in beta stage, got to take care first of some major ( hided ) probs, and i'm expecting to release something stable in a month max.
I could release all the files right now..but you would have to modify the flash viewer to make it work on your own website and i don't want / have no time to give support for something not stable enough..

your dialogue with Rodinou is fascinating, he is cracking the whip! 

no comment? 

-matt-

[skypix]

Thanks Matt, I'll be watching, thanks for all the hard work...it'll be awesome when you're done with it.

Jim
www.skypix7.com

[skypix]

Will the thumbnail field be configurable, i.e. will we be able to change size of thumbs, colors etc.?
Jim
www.skypix7.com

[nol33t]

Will the thumbnail field be configurable, i.e. will we be able to change size of thumbs, colors etc.?

there's two problematics here:

- setting the color dynamically ( with params in the embed tag calling the flash viewer ) should be pretty easy, so i would say yes for being able to configure the colors ( thumbs borders, album list, ..?)

- for the size of the thumbs...that would imply to redraw the whole layout dynamically...which is way beyond my flash skills right now, and to be honnest a real pain to realize...however on a second step, what i could do is provide a couple of differents "statics layout", e.g.:
  . the existing one
  . one with less thumbs but two times bigger
  . one with thumbs list vertically on a side of the main pic

but as i said it would be on a second step

--edit: after some extra reflexion..on a first step, maybe you'll be able to choose ( through params too ), between 2 rows of 10 thumbs, and 1 row of 5 but bigger ones

-matt-

[skypix]

Matt, don't want to drive you nuts on this, it's fine the way you've got it so far.  If it could be changed down the road, or selected between a couple layouts like you say, that would be plenty cool.