What If I Don't Have ImageMagick?

[cassie396]

I have installed Coppermine on a Unix server and it works wonderfully! I really want to install it on another website, and I got everything installed and set up, but I found out that my host doesn't have GD or ImageMagick. I emailed back and forth with them a couple of times and they say that it makes the system unstable, and that they can't install either of these.

So I guess my question is, is there anyway to use Coppermine without these programs? I really don't mind uploading the pictures and thumbnails myself, but I don't know if the program will let me do that?

Here's a link if you need to see it, which I don't think you do...
http://www.guidinglightmultimedia.com/media/

Also, if there is no way to use Coppermine, is there another similar freeware program? I did buy a copy of ImageFolio two years ago, but it just doesn't compare, nor does it have the features of Coppermine.

Any help you could give me would be very much appreciated.
Thanks!
Cassie

[Tarique Sani]

If you have shell access to your directory you can have a non root install of ImageMagick

[Joachim Müller]

you can try http://gallery.menalto.com/ (you'll need NetPBM, see their requirement page).

With a little tweaking you could use copermine without any image library as well, you'll have to create the thumbs and intermediate on your local pc (naming convention!) and upload the whole stuff, but that's not the idea of the software.

Maybe it's time to think about switching hosts...

GauGau

[cassie396]

How do I know if I have shell access? I'm sorry these are such silly questions!

Cassie

[cassie396]

Does ImageMagick have to be a root install? Can I just install it in my home directory and tell the program where to find it?

[Joachim Müller]

when signing up for the webhosting, did they boast with shell access services? Ask your webhost to find out, but as you seem to be with a budgt host you probably won't have this feature. I guess their talk about "instability" is bull: webspace with gd or im simply is a little more expensive, so again: if you're with a budget webhost... :wink:

GauGau

[cassie396]

Does ImageMagick have to be a root install??

[Joachim Müller]

you do not have to have "root" privileges on the lunix machine for an Image Magick install, but it requires "shell access" (which is, basically speaking the "command prompt" on your lunix machine). It is very unlikely that your webhosts grants you shell access if they deny you image libs like gd or im, so just forget it, ok? Image Magick is not a package like coppermine that you just upload by ftp and then call a script in your browser! It's difficult to set up as well.

@Tarique: such hints should only be given to advanced users (who have proven by their posts that they're advanced); they're confusing for "regular" users...

GauGau

[cassie396]

Thanks for your help. I don't mean to be so troublesome, I just really love Coppermine... I'm very glad you made it and I will continue using it on my Unix websites.

Thanks again.
Cassie

[Joachim Müller]

hehe, you can use it on linux and windows webservers as well (the operating system doesn't matter, in theory it should work on mac os x as well). You'll only need some webserver with php, mySQL and either gd or Image Magick, like the requirements pages says... :wink:

GauGau

[feffe]

i have the same problem. I really wants to use the coppermine. I know it is not the meening to upload the thumpnails by your self, but can i do it anyway??

If i cant i really want to know if their is another script where i can password protect my albums, that i can use???

i still want to say that coppermine rocks bigtime!!!!

[Joachim Müller]

of course you can; you'll just have to modify some code: whenever you upload/batch-add a pic to coppermine, the script does these things:

• put the file into the folder (when uploading)
• create a thumb (using an image lib)
• create an intermediate (normal) pic (using an image lib) when this is set in config
• if no errors happen: write the pic info into the database[/list:u]You'll "just" have to remove the error checking by commenting the right bits out, so the script will create the database entry for you. The tricky bit is to find the places where the error checking takes place. Hack away!
  
  The other way is to upload the pics (full, thumb and normal) into a proper folder and create the database entry "manually" (with phpMyAdmin for example). I wouldn't go through all this and would instead look for some other, less powerfull gallery script, but if you must have coppermine...
  
  GauGau

[feffe]

ok thx anyway.

I have found this gallery. It works like coppermine and it works for me without GD

http://www.4homepages.de/

you can finde themes in the forum.