Only permalinks

[remus]

Right now Coppermine's links on the frontpage are all like this /displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=4 or something similar. There are however permalinks of every picture (/displayimage.php?pos=-1247). Why aren't those used?

And how can I change this, so only permalinks are used? Now, Googgle for example links to /displayimage.php?album=topn&cat=0&pos=10, which is number ten of the most viewed files. This of course changes constantly, so Google users are led to the wrong picture.

[Joachim Müller]

Why aren't those used?

Because the application was designed that way. The question "why" simply doesn't apply.

And how can I change this, so only permalinks are used?

Using cpg1.4.x: not at all (unless you code it). Behaviour will change in cpg1.5.x (which hasn't been released yet, nor is there a release schedule) - cpg1.5.x will feature absolute URLs instead of relative ones.

Now, Googgle for example links to /displayimage.php?album=topn&cat=0&pos=10, which is number ten of the most viewed files. This of course changes constantly, so Google users are led to the wrong picture.

We're aware of this, and requests similar to yours have been posted often already. The answer is always the same (see above). In the future, please search before posting, as we're reluctant to answer the same questions over again.

[remus]

We're aware of this, and requests similar to yours have been posted often already. The answer is always the same (see above). In the future, please search before posting, as we're reluctant to answer the same questions over again.

Thanks for answering my question regardless. For what it's worth, I did search for 'permalinks' but I guess the word 'absolute URL' is more common. I'm really looking forward to cpg1.5.x  Keep it up!

[MatthewSchenker]

Remus,
Thanks for your question.  Like you, I also was searching for "permalinks" and didn't find this subject, even though that's what it's called in Coppermine.

In the future, please search before posting, as we're reluctant to answer the same questions over again.

Seems this was a valid question, since the technical terms are unclear.  In the future, please check the technical terms, as we're reluctant to be told our questions have been asked when they haven't.

[Joachim Müller]

In the future, please check the technical terms, as we're reluctant to be told our questions have been asked when they haven't.

Matthew,

I didn't say that searching the board for the particular search term "permalink" would have led you to the previous discussions about this issue. In my opinion we can ask people who look for answers to their questions to rephrase their search terms if the initial search didn't show any results - this is a matter of common sense and is something you can expect from people who run a website of their own, which means that they can not be fully computer-iliterate and therefor should know how to use search forms.
I've had enough of your confrontational replies. Neither the coppermine dev team nor I do owe you anything - we're doing this (coppermine development and support) during our spare time without getting paid or rewarded in any way. So it's not up you to decide nor judge about my replies here. You are not a paying customer who could expect being treated as a salesman would treat a potential customer. Like it or not: we're coders who create and maintain an application. Supporting users and answering questions comes as a by-product. The board rules as well as many sticky threads contain many details on this (that you're suppossed to read the docs first; that you're suppossed to search the board; that you're suppossed to re-phrase your search if the initial results don't contain the answers that you have been looking for). Just being new and being lazy is a poor excuse for not respecting the rules that we have set up. That's why I (as well as others) have to remind users about the rules (and sometimes common sense). Let's see some contribution from you in one way or the other for a start: you'll then be allowed to post a rant as above from time to time. But as long as you're only a taker and not a giver, you have no right at all to come up with confrontational postings like yours.
This is the last warning for you: even the slightest misbehaviour from your side will result in a ban.

Joachim

[MatthewSchenker]

GauGau,
I run a successful forum, and I also do it on a volunteer basis, so I know what you're talking about.  However, I would never insult people the way you do to members who post here.  Don't you see, it makes more work for you in the long run?

I'm someone who uses your software.  I'm not a programmer, so I can't contribute coding knowledge.  However, I have contributed suggestions for plug-ins and I've posted questions that can help other members.  Isn't that what a support forum is for?

By the way, I doubt anyone would call my last post "confrontational."

[Joachim Müller]

I'm not a programmer, so I can't contribute coding knowledge.

You don't have to be a programmer to be able to contribute - there are several other ways - read "We need your help". 

However, I have contributed suggestions for plug-ins

Reviewing your previous postings I simply can't spot where you have contributed valid suggestions. You have started a rant where you said that SEF_URL should not just be labelled "experimental", but that it doesn't work at all. As there are hundreds of users who use it successfully, it seems that it just doesn't work for you (and of course for others as well). That doesn't mean that the plugin is totally useless. It just means that it's useless for you. We never said that it can be used by everybody. Ranting about a plugin contribution is not what I'd call a valid "suggestion", but it just equals flaming the original contributor.
You posted similar rants in the JUpload thread and the Backup Plugin thread, where you don't give valid debugging or trouble-shooting tipps (like specs of your server hard- and software), but just state that you're unable to make those plugins work. This isn't helpfull at all, as it doesn't give the plugin authors a clue what might be wrong nor how they could possible advice.
I'm just posting this here on this thread because you claim to have posted helpfull replies in other threads - you haven't. Please do not clutter this thread with replies that deal with your individual issues making those other plugins work.

and I've posted questions that can help other members.

Posting questions instead of answers is not what I'd call helping others - maybe we have a different view on what "help" actually is.

After having posted confrontational and hostile stuff directed against me, you even start to insult another supporter (Hein) and lecture him on his choice of words. Just a little hint on this aspect: neither Etienne, Frantz, Hein nor I are native English speakers. Etienne and Frantz are French, Hein is Dutch and I come from Germany. English is not our first language. So please don't lecture us on what we meant nor what words mean "where you come from". Let's see your French, Dutch or German postings for a start on the corresponding boards :-\. If you don't speak those languages, then please forgive us our bad grammar and spelling...

Joachim